[N_Fiddledog]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

The nationalist parties in Europe are gaining ground now. Makes me wonder if the moslems went too far this time.

Je suis Marine...

[BartSimpson]

Interesting illustration of my previous point that the right wing is more outraged at the deaths of secular leftists than are most secular leftists.

[Zipperfish]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Interesting illustration of my previous point that the right wing is more outraged at the deaths of secular leftists than are most secular leftists.

Not really. The rabid right are permanently outraged.

[N_Fiddledog]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Interesting illustration of my previous point that the right wing is more outraged at the deaths of secular leftists than are most secular leftists.

Not really. The rabid right are permanently outraged.

You know of all the irritating things you libs do I must admit the one that bugs me the most is how we zing you, and you don't seem to be able to think of anything original so you just steal our dis and use it (almost always incorrectly) back at us.

Do a search on "perpetually outraged", you'll see what I mean. There are some examples of your side trying to do what I say, but not even Google can hide who dominates use of the term.

Shouldn't bother me because creativity is infinite, and you'll never be able to keep up, but I must admit, it does.

[Zipperfish]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

You know of all the irritating things you libs do I must admit the one that bugs me the most is how we zing you, and you don't seem to be able to think of anything original so you just steal our dis and use it (almost always incorrectly) back at us.

Do a search on "perpetually outraged", you'll see what I mean. There are some examples of your side trying to do what I say, but not even Google can hide who dominates use of the term.

Shouldn't bother me because creativity is infinite, and you'll never be able to keep up, but I must admit, it does.

You are correct. The rabid right are indeed permanenetly outraged, but so are the rabid left.

As for my side--I equate myself with reasonable people close to the centre and don't realte to extremes at either side.

[Public_Domain]

[BartSimpson]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

As for my side--I equate myself with reasonable people close to the centre and don't (relate) to extremes at either side.

In my experience I've found that most of the people at the very fringes of society will profess to the heavens that they are actually moderates.

But push them just a bit and you'll see their true colors.

[Zipperfish]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

As for my side--I equate myself with reasonable people close to the centre and don't (relate) to extremes at either side.

In my experience I've found that most of the people at the very fringes of society will profess to the heavens that they are actually moderates.

But push them just a bit and you'll see their true colors.

You probably watched the old Twilight Zones, did you?

The Monsters are Due on Maple Street
The Shelter

Rod Serling was big on the thin veneer of civility.

$1:

The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices — to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill — and suspicion can destroy — and a thoughtless frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own — for the children — and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is — that these things cannot be confined — to the Twilight Zone.

My son is into the old Twilght Zones now., We watch them together. Good times!

[BartSimpson]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

I'm on the "rabid left", and like the people who were gunned down this week, I believe the crazy racists cheering fascism and the crazy racists cheering terrorism are both totally terrible sides with almost the exact same views.

Equating the people who want to protect you with the people who want to kill you is a sure-fire way to dampen the enthusiasm of those who would try to protect you.

[Thanos]

After the Iraq debacle, which set this ISIS nonsense off in the first place thanks to that Potemkin village of 'Founding Fathers' the neo-cons put in charge in Baghdad, it's more that moderates aren't against action. They just want it to be intelligent action that actually weakens the enemy instead of a bunch of nonsense that was made up for the US cable-new cycle and for the benefit of petty American domestic politics. Can't ever accuse me of being weak on Muslims because, once again, the vast majority of them never should have ever been allowed to immigrate to any of our countries. That post-WW2 immigration policy, which is almost entirely the handiwork of social liberals, is the literal original sin that can never be corrected.

[Public_Domain]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

I'm on the "rabid left", and like the people who were gunned down this week, I believe the crazy racists cheering fascism and the crazy racists cheering terrorism are both totally terrible sides with almost the exact same views.

Equating the people who want to protect you with the people who want to kill you is a sure-fire way to reduce the enthusiasm of those who would try to protect you.

Do not pretend to defend my interests when you seek them rooted out and eliminated in your own lands, Bart. Save it.

[ShepherdsDog]

Seeing as both of you want to shoot those who hold differing opinions from your own on the way society should be ordered, I say we toss you both into a room with a handgun in the middle......my money is on the ex-jarhead with the gimp knee. if all we hear is sorry sorry sorry after the bang....well the gimp knee gave out.

[Public_Domain]

[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

After the Iraq debacle, which set this ISIS nonsense off in the first place

The fundamentalism behind ISIS has been brewing for a very long time. Kitchener had to deal with it in Khartoum and the Austrians had to deal with it at the gates of Vienna. It's nothing new or recent.

[BartSimpson]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

Do not pretend to defend my interests when you seek them rooted out and eliminated in your own lands, Bart. Save it.

I will say that up until fairly recently all I was asking was that our competing ideas have their day in the public forum. But this most recent attack by the moslems and the near-instantaneous defense of the terrorists by the left has changed not just my convictions, but my heart.

If your interests are to provide succor and comfort to such as would destroy our civilization then I necessarily find myself at odds with those interests.

That said, if rooting out and eradicating leftism is what must first be accomplished in order to secure Western civilization from the moslems then so be it.

If you take up with our avowed enemies then you can stand with them when the time for accounting inevitably comes about. I hope you find comfort in your god Karl Marx when the executioner lets slip the trapdoor of the gallows beneath your feet.