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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:37 pm
 


ridenrain ridenrain:
I just heard on the news that most of US doctors oppose the Obama health care bill.
I guess they must all be racists or manipulated by those neo-con racists too.


Of course they're against it RR. Why do you think for so many years, so many Canadian health professionals have headed south? That's where the BIG bucks are.
Now, those big bucks are potentially being threatened. Now, instead of Rolls Royces, those poor American doctors might have to make do with BMWs


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:41 pm
 


Has to be racism. :roll:
Surely people of color can never be greedy.
After all, there's no black doctors are there.. :roll:


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PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Of course they're against it RR. Why do you think for so many years, so many Canadian health professionals have headed south? That's where the BIG bucks are.
Now, those big bucks are potentially being threatened. Now, instead of Rolls Royces, those poor American doctors might have to make do with BMWs


Well, although I agree that's probably why they're opposed, it's very, VERY rare for a doctor to make enough money for a Rolls Royce. Maybe some of those very elite specialists somewhere in Manhattan, or the Mayo Clinic, but most doctors in the US probably live moderately better off than those in Canada.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:45 pm
 


ridenrain ridenrain:
I just heard on the news that most of US doctors oppose the Obama health care bill.
I guess they must all be racists or manipulated by those neo-con racists too.


And what news source would that be? Your ass?

Here's the American Medical Assoc. endorsing one of the House Bills with no caveats whatsoever.

http://blog.healthcareforamericanow.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/715-house-hsr-letter_rangel-ama-endorsed.pdf


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:49 pm
 


Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
WTF does every time any opposition come up to Obama's policies, the race card is played.

When non whites opposed GWB's, Hillary Clinton's, or John McCain's policies I never once heard the term racist used. But now that Obama's in the White house it's become the new byword, for left wing apologists, who by virtue of their own self induced guilt, attempt to use it to push through their personal agendas.

It's time for America to stand up to these sanctimonious race bullies, Jimmy Carter included and tell them to STFU, since, except for a small minority of lunatics, the opposition isn't about Obama's race but about his policies.


Well said. R=UP

As to Wilson upsetting Congress' decorum by calling Obama a liar, Nancy Pelosi et al need to be censured for booing President Bush when he spoke to Congress. Oh, but wait, they're hypocrites so I guess it's okay if THEY speak out.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:57 pm
 


PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
The people at the rally don't have to be racist. BUT, there are certain elements on the radical right that have stirred up controversy using things like the health care bill


Sure, sounds like the left wing on a crapload of issues during the Bush years.

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as a smoke screen for their REAL issue. Let's assume for a minute that there were 2 million people at that march. They were all marching to protest something they have only been allowed to hear one side of.


That makes absolutely no sense. Let's say there were two million people there. Now, you really think a majority of those only received the right wing view on the issue, and they did not watch a bit of CNN, or 60 Minutes, or Dateline, or heard/seen one of the many speeches by Obama or Democrats?

That seems a bit...a big stretch. People have heard both sides, much like the anti-war side heard the pro-war side. They might think the pro-war side was crazy, evil warmongering babykiller oil loving capitalists, but they heard the other side.


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They've been duped by the likes of Beck and Limbaugh anong others, who, while not being openly racist, don't quite manage to hide the fact they are.


Sigh. I don't agree with that. Beck is crazy, and I don't listen/watch him, but Limbaugh isn't a racist. A sarcastic bastard, sure, but a racist? Unlikely. This seems to be you doing what you're accusing the right wing of doing, only getting one side of the story, and not the other. The fact is, if Limbaugh was truly a racist, the various civil rights organizations would have crucified him a long time ago, like when that DJ (whose name is totally escaping me, sadly) called a women's college basketball team "Nappy Headed Hoes"


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Now you can tell me that there are plenty of resources for people to check out the facts on health care reform for themselves. But let's face it, we all know that the majority of NORTH Americans would rather listen to the wags and take their opinion as gospel, rather than educate themselves, or are just too damn partisan to even care.


Sure, I can agree with that, but I'd even say that about Canadians and left wing Americans who hail socialized health care as some sign of God. It's not healthy, no doubt, but this is the reality of the situation.

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I'm also not saying that racism is the ONLY force at work here. The health insurance industry is also using health care reform as a smoke screen to protect its own interests. And everyone knows or should know by now, those interests DO NOT include their clientele!


Sigh. So therefore it's racists, and the health care industry that's sending out two million people. Okay. That makes no sense, at all. Is the health care industry opposed to this? Sure, because they're going to be taxed and penalized to death under the bill in its current form. Conservatives, and Republicans, proposed allowing people to get their insurance across state lines, thus allowing much more competitiveness. Government corporations are usually not competitive, not profitable, and commonly subsided, which puts an unfair burden upon private companies who have to compete not only with the unlimited amount of money within government coffers, but also the bureaucrats and politicians who want their "public" solution to succeed to make them more famous, wealthy, and powerful


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:01 pm
 


commanderkai commanderkai:
like when that DJ (whose name is totally escaping me, sadly) called a women's college basketball team "Nappy Headed Hoes"





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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:08 pm
 


martin14 martin14:
commanderkai commanderkai:
like when that DJ (whose name is totally escaping me, sadly) called a women's college basketball team "Nappy Headed Hoes"





Don Imus I beleive


Thanks for the refresher. I never even heard of him before that incident.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:09 pm
 


Looks like Obama's spokesman shot poor Jimmy out of the saddle on this one.



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:17 pm
 


ridenrain ridenrain:
Looks like Obama's spokesman shot poor Jimmy out of the saddle on this one.


Jimmy shot himself out of the saddle way back in 1979-1980. Carter's comment that any criticism of Obama is inherently racist just underlines the irrelevance of the man.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:36 pm
 


There was a good story on one of the American news channels last night. It explained how the “Tea Party” groups while protesting a policy have been a perfect opportunity for the racists to vent at the same time. There was no question that the signs being held up in the video were racist and had nothing to do with a protest about medical insurance.


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I'm sorry.. Are you qualified to speak here?
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ridenrain ridenrain:
I'm sorry.. Are you qualified to speak here?
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Your not qualified and yet you do...... XD


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:24 pm
 


ridenrain ridenrain:
I guess they must all be racists or manipulated by those neo-con racists too.


Yes you do a lot of guessing. And you're not very good at it either. :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:27 pm
 


PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Of course they're against it RR. Why do you think for so many years, so many Canadian health professionals have headed south? That's where the BIG bucks are.
Now, those big bucks are potentially being threatened. Now, instead of Rolls Royces, those poor American doctors might have to make do with BMWs


Most were against it here in Canada as well. I've heard conflicting reviews in teh US, which indicates to me that polls are being run by self-interested parties loading the questions to eleict the repsonse they seek.

It's not teh doctors that stand to lose a whole bunch though. It's teh health insurance industry and the banks that have most at stake here, through things such as the trading market in life insurance claims.


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